Anonymous said…FOTH:What is “normal?” People’s minds function differently from one another--thankfully.That is exactly how my brother, who has a masters degree in clinical psycology, told me many years ago when I asked.People’s minds function along infinite continuums, in a matrix of many dimensions. If not for minds functioning at the extremes we would not have Beethoven, Stephen Hawking, or Mother Teresa. Of course there are some folks we see as bad that we would not have either. If what you define as “normal” is being near the average point on all continuums, we pay a heavy price for normal.Again; thanks to all who served.And thanks to FOTHMike
Mike, I agree with what you're saying there. Unfortunately, I suppose there will always be a tendency amongst societies to try and force conformity to some imaginary “middle ground” which they define as average, typical or “normal,” as so many are quite frankly afraid of things they don’t understand--including thought processes that may not be like their own. It’s a shame.
FrRichard said…May Sp Sharp rest in God's arms and peace. May the many who were there, died there and to the many (like my brother) who died later due to the time spent....Thank you all for your service to your fellow Man!Thanks FOTH for writing his story, our story.
FrRichard, thank you, and I regret that I did not have the opportunity to thank your brother for his service, and to welcome him home.
Anonymous said…I think Einar needs more face time with Snorri.Mike
Yes, I think they have a lot to learn from each other.
a ~very~ happy member of AA once answered the question, "What is Normal"....
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by saying, "Silly, normal is a setting on a washing machine"
For the post yesterday, Liz did more good to Einar, handing him Snorri, than 40 Psych-Therapists could do in 40 months....
Just my opinion on most Psych's, but I have had Two GREAT ONES, Dr. Peter Mist, who helped me (finally) fill out my VA Appeal for PTSD, it seemes that the VA did not think I could be a Combat VET, because I fixed Helicopter radios....
I told one shrink: "do you know another name for Helicopter????"
"No" he replied....
I smiled and said Target. My base was located in the Fish Hook, Tay Ninh, called the Fish Hook, due to the Country boundary lines, we were surrounded by Cambodia, by the North, the West, and the South...
and we caught Rockets & Mortars from each of those directions, plus Nui Ba Dinh, the Black Virgin Mountain (volcano really)where the Cu Chi Tunnel system began.....
but today I am better, not normal, but better.... and I will enjoy this days Post....
philip
187th AHC, The Crusaders
Trouble Shooter 1 5
Tay Ninh RVN 1969-70
Sometimes I feel too .... well, too young, to get involved in the discussions. Kinda like my input would be out of place, gratuitous, if you will.
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It's none of my business to define normal for anyone but me. Look, each of us has a "normal" that we decide if we are at, or not. So long as that 'normal' doesn't impact negatively on another person, then it's nobody's business precisely what constitutes normal for another person.
It's normal for Einar to embrace the cold and sit naked up to his neck in dry ice for months on end, but that is decidedly ABnormal for a Wild Horse Desert critter like me. Same token, Einar would probably find what I consider normal, to be repulsive to him. BUT it's not my place to pass that judgement on him or anyone else, nor to demand that he conform to MY perception of normal, just the same as it's not anyone else's place to tell me what I should do.
The ONLY proper way to impose your "normal" onto someone else is by quiet demonstration. By quiet I don't mean silent, but without being overbearing or oppressive. Walk the walk, and when someone asks, only THEN should you talk the talk.
It really does take all kinds. That's why we're called INDIVIDUALS. There is no such thing as a "normal individual" :)
Bill
Thanks for the story , finally caught up , was reading all week end to do so . As I mentioned to FOH on anther site that I thought he knew a little about ptsd , some of us didn't find out what the problem was till after 30 yrs. There all a lot of things that people will do to try to stay normal it was drinking at first until the good lord took it away and the va still wanted me to say ,my name is Dave and I'm a acholic but I refused I told them that I couldn't say that as I am not one anymore. So that was one way to be normal in my mind at the time, Next was working until I could work anymore . Finally work so many hours and no sleep that I finally had a siezure just like Einar and ran into a bridge , so if you want to keep your drivers lisenes you take meds. the rest of your life Some of what normal does for you.
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I too was station at Tay Ninh From jan. 1967 until apr. 1969 probly chewed some of the same dust.